I thought whoa. ", "Fuhrman Grants Interview, Apologizes for Slurs", "LAPD's Fuhrman Inquiry Calls for Sweeping Changes", Site at MIT with information on Fuhrman tapes, The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuhrman_tapes&oldid=1142694116, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 3 March 2023, at 21:52. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. A key part of the defense case is the allegation that Fuhrman, motivated by hatred of blacks/African Americans and interracial couples, transported a bloody leather glove from the Bundy crime scene to the defendant's Rockingham residence for the purpose of placing the blame upon the defendant for the savage murders of Ronald L. Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. He even gave that response to the last question asked by the defense as to whether or not he planted evidence at Simpson's home. Quote grabbed her by the hair and stuck a gun to her head. PHILLIPS: And pled no contest to perjury. HART MCKINNY: I didn't go out of the house for a while. I'm sorry for that. PHILLIPS: Nobody stood up and said hey, don't back down. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. Which I thought he was. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:33:24] KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: By 1995 Laura Hart McKinny had settled down with her family in suburban North Carolina but back in L.A. her old friend Mark Fuhrman was back on the stand. Either they get off the street or they are going to have some split-tail for a partner. PHILLIPS: A split-tail for a partner. She could have profited handsomely from those tapes but she didn't. It makes guys aware. Denying having ever planted evidence, Fuhrman stated, "there was never a shred, never a hint, never a possibility--not a remote, not a million--, not a billion-to-one possibility--I could have planted anything. He pleaded no contest. MARK FUHRMAN, DETECTIVE: That is what I am saying. um. See who they are.' PHILLIPS: They swayed a verdict. There is something with his own identity that was connected to being a police officer and so much of it was being (inaudible) by having to work with women that if he'd been in a different time in history, he would have been more appreciated, more openly respected by some people. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detective Fuhrman, did you plant or manufacture any evidence in this case? PHILLIPS: Still a mystery? So your goal was to write a screen play about sexism within the LAPD. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Simpson you are charge with the crime of murder. - Discussing a rape victim, 'Now, it's funny because guys in Internal Affairs go, "Mark, you can do just about anything. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:13:35] PHILLIPS: Making it in Hollywood was screen writer Laura Hart McKinny's dream and she knew exactly what her movie should be about. McKinny's tapes would impact more than just the O.J. We have to be willing to be vulnerable. They're not trustworthy. If you do you're either so ugly or they're lesbians or so dyke-ish that they're not women anymore. HART MCKINNY: No. Fuhrman was the cop who \"noticed\" a speck of blood on O.J. PHILLIPS: Who had helped them in some way or not reported something in a report that those officers felt they should have or had done something nice to them, had backed them up. It's got to be happening around the country. Transcripts Of The Fuhrman Tapes Excerpts Show Why They Were Such A Blow To The State's Case Entertainment These Fuhrman Tapes Excerpts Are Disturbing by Caitlin Flynn March 29, 2016 John. So I just handcuffed him and went the scenic route to the station. PHILLIPS: So it started out as a romance before you started doing the tapes? These excerpts from the hours of white supremacist and criminal statements made by Detective Fuhrman that were played in Court became known as \"The Fuhrman Tapes\". Fuhrman tells of "torture' on tape transcript - Tampa Bay Times The Fuhrman Tapes (with Transcript) from the O.J. Then in 1991 there was this, a grainy video of four white cops beating Rodney King. We'd love to investigate just some good 'ol boy beating up a n***** in a bar."' [9], Although the LAPD Commission investigating the Fuhrman tapes "determined that in almost every instance, the now-retired detective was exaggerating or lying about episodes of police brutality," the report confirmed that Fuhrman was "telling the truth when he spoke of institutional harassment of women on the force. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And in preparation of your testimony today can you tell the jury how many times you counted that he used that word? [10] After paying a $200 fine, Fuhrman was released from his probation in April 1998[11] and the conviction was later expunged from his record. PHILLIPS: In 1997 the task force released this report, keeping secret portions of the tapes. The day after the tapes were played for the jury, Fuhrman once again took the witness stand and said to every question asked by the defense; 'I wish to assert my 5th Amendment privilege.'. They don't want anybody but good people in their town, and anyway you can do to get them out of there that's fine with them. Screenwriter Laura Hart McKinny, who had taped an interview with Fuhrman as background for a screenplay she was writing about women's experience in the police force, turned over the tapes and. Fuhrman, who in addition to the glove also found the blood on and in Simpson's Ford Bronco, was listed as a police witness by the prosecution in a form submitted to Judge Ito before the start of the trial. "I want my private life back and I'm never going to have it." There must be some evidence in the record from which counsel might argue, however reasonably or unreasonably, that Fuhrman moved a glove from the Bundy crime scene to the defendant's Rockingham residence for the purpose of placing blame for two brutal and savage murders upon the defendant. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. [4][5] In a taped interview to McKinney in 1985, Fuhrman bragged about his leadership in MAW, a secret organization within the LAPD that reportedly had 145 members in five of the city's 18 police divisions during its heyday in the mid-1980s. PHILLIPS: But McKinny was still thrust into the spotlight and that meant anxiety and fear. Simpson's lawyers. He didn't get out. PHILLIPS: Morris says she was so scared she didn't finish her shift that night. When the LAPD officers were exonerated in 1992 the city exploded, then just two years later. . A competent woman cop I think is more accurate. Judge Ito's first ruling on the Fuhrman tapes . Simpson Court Hears Fuhrman's Racist Slurs - The Seattle Times As of mid-April 1995, all transcripts were converted to proper case thanks to He wasn't going to help you. Mark Fuhrman's racist tapes: The full transcript of key OJ Simpson detective saying N-word 41 TIMES and detailing racially-motivated violence involving members of LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman. ANNOUNCER: The following is a CNN special report. Aired 11p-12mn ET. PHILLIPS: One year after Fuhrman was passed over for a promotion, Parks had to set up another task force. We have no n****** where I grew up.' UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This material is collateral. PHILLIPS: Tribunals. . HART MCKINNY: Yes. He is very capable of protecting himself. Went over to the baseball diamond and talked to him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The court finds the defendant guilty based on his plea of no contest. Trial Transcripts Both alive and I was first unit on the scene. MORRIS: Yes. Fuhrman was the cop who decided that speck of blood was probable cause to climb over the wall to O.J. Go for Shapiro, he's an a******.'. HART MCKINNY: I was. I was extremely nervous. They didn't understand why these tapes had to come about. PHILLIPS: Stunning to hear now, but not really surprising when looking back on a man known to be cocky. You've got 200 n****** that are trying to take you prisoner.' - On new LAPD regulations, 'You know, policemen also use "Bubba" a lot, 'cause it's a slam term, because n****** you know they call each other Bubba. Excerpts From the Ruling on the Fuhrman Tapes, https://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/01/us/excerpts-from-the-ruling-on-the-fuhrman-tapes.html. He said what are you writing? Because of Fuhrman's discovery of a bloody glove at the Rockingham residence and its scientific significance, he is a significant although not essential witness against the defendant. FUHRMAN: Their response is what? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you stop and think about what you should next do? HART MCKINNY: It just pissed me off. - On making decisions at crime scenes, 'I mean narcotics isn't full of n****** and Mexicans. ', He also defended his collection of German war artifacts from World Wart II by saying they were 'not swastikas.'. O.J. judge, nation hear Fuhrman tapes - UPI Archives That the other guys wouldn't talk with him. The probative value of the evidence of Fuhrman's use of racial epithets comes from the fact that he has testified that he has not used the term in the last 10 years, thereby impacting his credibility. The thought of taking someone's life and being happy that it wasn't you and finding a way to go great job, that was a hell of an evening, it's just overwhelming, the really is, the idea of a kill party. But then I really saw how serious Mark Fuhrman was about the other men talking to the women. Rappers like NWA made clear, black neighborhoods were ready to blow. This is a conversation we're . I felt that ashamed would be wrong, but I have felt bad that the revelation of the tapes could have actually had something to do with the verdict. PHILLIPS: She teaches screen writing at the University of North Carolina, School of the Arts. Why? They also did not hear the 39 other times Fuhrman used the n-word tapes obtained by the defense. 'I don't know what else to do. In the transcript shared with the Los Angeles Times, Fuhrman said he was the primary suspect in an 18-month Internal Affairs investigation that resulted from the 1978 incident, but that he escaped . [23:05:00] HART MCKINNY: Judge who was an acquaintance of mine in L.A. PHILLIPS: Did that surprise you? - On questioning suspects, 'We basically get impatient with him being so f****** stupid. More from the infamous tapes you've never heard. Two of my buddies were shot and ambushed, policemen. The court has reviewed each of the 41 uses of the racial epithet in question either by reference to the transcript(s), audio tapes or both. I would never have sold the tapes. PHILLIPS: Coming up O.J. PHILLIPS: And it was sure happening in L.A. in the 1980s with resentment and retaliation against the campaign to recruit more women and minorities to the LAPD. Man, it has the smell of n****** that have been beaten and killed in there for years.' PHILLIPS: And whatever happened to McKinny's screen play? But what did the Mark Fuhrman tapes say? They're unable to hold a gun. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How do you arrest a violent suspect? HART MCKINNY: First of there we had a brief encounter. PHILLIPS: And that is exactly what happened. . The LAPD announced that Fuhrman exaggerated many of the acts of racially motivated brutality described on the recordings. Following are excerpts from the ruling yesterday by Judge Lance A. Ito of Superior Court allowing the jury in the O. J. Simpson murder trial to hear two examples of racial epithets by Detective Mark Fuhrman in conversations with Laura Hart McKinny but barring examples of Mr. Fuhrman's boasting of misconduct: The Fuhrman tapes and transcripts raise a number of complex and compelling issues. Fuhrman, a key witness in the O.J. HART MCKINNY: Yes, it's time. He also accuses his colleagues, but not himself, of making multiple mistakes while investigating the case. FUHRMAN: Five years ago I would have spun around and choked him out until he told me the truth. After O.J. , updated Simpson trial, reportedly makes racist comments on the tapes and refers to alleged incidents of police brutality by the LAPD. Suits, Motions and Court Orders When they start moving into Redondo and Torrance. PHILLIPS: He won. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you're still trying to Market this? Think of that 3 plus 1.' The specific racial epithet at issue is perhaps the single most insulting, inflammatory and provocative term in use in modern day America. Nor would I have a reason to. Why didn't you give him the 77th lie detector test? Just body shots. Transcripts Of The Fuhrman Tapes Excerpts Show Why They Were - Bustle HART MCKINNY: I was sitting outside working on my laptop and he was dressed in regular clothes and he sat down and I was like he seems like a nice person. More than once though he is describing a violent incident, like when he tells a story about beating up a suspect in his custody. Who suggested you destroy the tapes? "Two of my buddies were shot and ambushed, policemen," said Fuhrman, according to the transcript. What Did The Mark Fuhrman Tapes Say? They Were Crucial To The - Romper The tapes include many racist slurs and remarks made by Fuhrman, including uses of the word "nigger," descriptions of police brutality perpetrated on black suspects, misogynist slurs and descriptions of the harassment and intimidation of female Los Angeles police officers by male officers. Witnesses Tell Jury of Fuhrman's Racial Epithets : Simpson trial: Ex In graphic passages from the audio tapes that have come to dominate the O.J. FUHRMAN: We have factions in five divisions. HART MCKINNY: I just froze and said yes and then we left town, immediately, because I had no idea what to do. People there don't want Mexicans in their town. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. 'Two guys, well, there was four guys. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When you're watching the trial and you see this and you know what you've got on those tapes, what were you thinking? . MORRIS: He told me I needed to go and dance on soul train. - On a police division, 'He grew up in school with all blacks, and every time a n***** looked at him, he'd jump them cause he figured they were going to jump on him, so he might as well start the fight right now and get it over with.' Fuhrman was also recorded stating that women who were good leaders "are either so ugly or they're a lesbian or they're so dyke-ish that they are not women anymore. If leaks of the Mark Fuhrman tapes are accurate, it's a force that revels in heating, shooting, harassing, framing and intimidating suspects, among other finer police tactics. . Another time he is complaining about members of the force no longer being allowed to use certain methods of force on suspects. - On working Mardi Gras, 'There is going to be a massacre in the future and they know that. Then he and the other officers went out back according to Fuhrman and washed off the blood with a hose before returning to work. We grabbed a girl that lived there, one of their girlfriends. HART MCKINNY: Even before the trial started he knew how important he was to this case. He later says; 'Well, the funny thing about it is just like the attorney said, `For the rest of your life, this is you: you're bloody glove Fuhrman, that's it. FUHRMAN: It was like a man and wife relationship, you know. A sign to find anything that would support the defense's strategy that Mark Fuhrman was a racist who planted evidence. Where's Fatburger. I didn't know what I was doing. See the article in its original context from. HART MCKINNY: Approximately 42. It is a theory without factual support. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every rank up through captain. The jury was not present for Fuhrman's testimony. PHILLIPS: Including what to do about some unexpected advice. Fuhrman had previously been to O.J's home, years earlier, on a domestic abuse call. PHILLIPS: So she is telling her story, her truth and for the first time excerpts from the Fuhrman tapes you've never heard, vulgar, sexist. PHILLIPS: Did you feel a need to protect him? Up Against The Wall - Newsweek HART MCKINNY: He said that. PHILLIPS: Decades later, are you glad you didn't destroy those tapes? - On women playing football, 'We stopped the choke because a bunch of n****** have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all n****** are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. PHILLIPS: Two people brutally murdered, Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman and the main suspect, Nicole's ex-husband, football legend, O.J. Two questions. They're easy. - On suspects resisting arrest, 'You just go out and what are gonna do with some n***** with a knife? They are going to say that I planted the glove to be able to sell to peddle this which is absolutely psycho. I was an excuse. There has got to be a reason why he is going to tell you the truth.' We have no n****** where I grew up.'. PHILLIPS: Impacting the trial of the century. Opinion | The Fuhrman Tapes and the L.A.P.D. - New York Times On cross-examination the defense was allowed to question Fuhrman as to his biases against African Americans. The court finds that each involves Fuhrman's use of the subject racial epithet in a disparaging manner within the time frame posed by the cross-examination and in contradiction to his testimony before the jury. - On female police officers, 'They have a bunch of n****** up there, two guys, they're like 5'6", they got punched right in the face.' FUHRMAN: Guys get a lot of time on the street, but now they are studying. When you found out you had to work the beat with him, what's your reaction? PHILLIPS: And it was a trial that from the start was clearly about race, in a city with a deep history of racial turmoil. He did specify he knew it was stemming from Fuhrman and said he was going to start an investigation and he did. I don't know if you've heard that before, but what's your reaction to that? In another story Fuhrman admits that he will appear at trials and provide information under oath to support officers even if he does not know the information to be true claiming that unlike his fellow officers he knows how to testify. Veteran LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman was the most important witness for the prosecution in the OJ Simpson trial as he discovered a bloody glove on the football player's property that matched the one found at the scene where his ex-wife Nicole was murdered alongside Ronald Goldman. Simpson -- that is until Simpson's defense team discovered recordings of Fuhrman speaking about his racist views, a career of police brutality, and routine evidence tampering to a writer. 'Four suspects ran into a 2nd story in a apartment projects - apartment. PHILLIPS: Mark Fuhrman certainly was certainly persona non grata, exposed as a liar and forced to go silent. Fuhrman Tapes Aired: a Recital of Racism, Wrath - Los Angeles Times Read Best of the Sidebars in the OJ Simpson Trial. They did not however hear what came before that line of the tapes, which was; 'People there don't want n****** in their town. PHILLIPS: Stories of alleged sexism, racism, and police brutality. HART MCKINNY: No. Ito steps aside on Fuhrman tapes issue - CNN This is the confidential personnel version of that report. And that is the way it is in the car. As such, the defendant is entitled to effectively cross-examine him. HART MCKINNY: Was very pleased that we won and thought that is the end of it, great. . No, I didn't. PHILLIPS: But infamous is very different from famous. . Walked up and told them: "I've got this girl, I'll blow her f****** brains out, if you come out with a gun. - Speaking about threats to police, 'She was afraid. PHILLIPS: Why have you decided to come forward now and talk to us? HART MCKINNY: He asked if in that story I had research tapes and if I had taped Mark Fuhrman. They can arm wrestle 6'7" n******.' It is pretty tough, huh?' That is how MAW, men against women, reportedly worked. Coming so quickly on the heels of the 1992 LA riots, the Fuhrman tapes forced the public to reckon with the specter of racism and police brutality all over again. Fuhrman later describes the aftermath of the brawl, saying; 'We broke 'em. - On racial profiling suspects, 'How do you intellectualize when you punch the hell out of a n*****? [Women] don't pack those qualities."

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